As to Sam and Dean, I never thought of Dean as an alpha male top. His overtly macho attitude always seemed to me to be Dean overcompensating for his resulting loneliness because he wanted his family together again and didn't know how to connect with people. Dean to me is just too subservient to his father and too maternal of Sam to buy Dean topping Sam I guess. Sam though is very independent, makes his choices and fights for what he wants we saw this by the way he fought John continuously while Dean took orders. Sam left while Dean stayed. Sam went after what he wanted while Dean passive aggressively sulked while Sam did what he wanted. I just don't see Dean as being very aggressive and dominant, where as Sam very much is. Dean for the most part just wants Sam. Dean needs Sam more then Sam needs Dean. However I think Sam may want Dean more then Dean wants Sam. For that reason alone I could see Dean bottoming for Sam to stop Sam from leaving because as I said before I just don't think Sam would willingly bottom for anyone.
I find Dean to be very needy and desperately hungry for any affection he can get which is why I see him as the ultimate bottom in SPN. I don't see Dean as an alpha at all. His wants and needs always come second to those he cares about, he is very nurturing and he has this desperate need to be loved back as well. He falls apart when he thinks his family doesn't love him. Where as both Sam and John were able to go on even though they believed they hated eachother.
I guess I just don't see Jensen as controlled, possessive or growly. Jared I think is very possessive with his mandhandling, constant hands all over people and just in general his very warm nature. He is very dominant in conversations, body language, he teases Jensen endlessly, etc. While it usually takes Jensen a moment or so to warm up and that's usually when he is in Jared's presence. When he doesn't have a buffer he is very tame and isn't as open as when he is with Jared. I guess that's why I see him as submissive and shy because I think he has even admitted that he doesn't like crowds, or talking in public, etc. Jensen has even admitted that Jared has helped him come out of his shell more because he has had a hard time interacting publicly with fans.
That being said obviously people like what they like and I don't begrudge that at all. But I my problem with them stems from the fact that they seem to have to go the extra mile in order to short-change Jared enough so that Jensen is the top, and I wind up thinking to myself what's the point of writing J2 if you are going to remove everything that makes the character the character?
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As to Sam and Dean, I never thought of Dean as an alpha male top. His overtly macho attitude always seemed to me to be Dean overcompensating for his resulting loneliness because he wanted his family together again and didn't know how to connect with people. Dean to me is just too subservient to his father and too maternal of Sam to buy Dean topping Sam I guess. Sam though is very independent, makes his choices and fights for what he wants we saw this by the way he fought John continuously while Dean took orders. Sam left while Dean stayed. Sam went after what he wanted while Dean passive aggressively sulked while Sam did what he wanted. I just don't see Dean as being very aggressive and dominant, where as Sam very much is. Dean for the most part just wants Sam. Dean needs Sam more then Sam needs Dean. However I think Sam may want Dean more then Dean wants Sam. For that reason alone I could see Dean bottoming for Sam to stop Sam from leaving because as I said before I just don't think Sam would willingly bottom for anyone.
I find Dean to be very needy and desperately hungry for any affection he can get which is why I see him as the ultimate bottom in SPN. I don't see Dean as an alpha at all. His wants and needs always come second to those he cares about, he is very nurturing and he has this desperate need to be loved back as well. He falls apart when he thinks his family doesn't love him. Where as both Sam and John were able to go on even though they believed they hated eachother.
I guess I just don't see Jensen as controlled, possessive or growly. Jared I think is very possessive with his mandhandling, constant hands all over people and just in general his very warm nature. He is very dominant in conversations, body language, he teases Jensen endlessly, etc. While it usually takes Jensen a moment or so to warm up and that's usually when he is in Jared's presence. When he doesn't have a buffer he is very tame and isn't as open as when he is with Jared. I guess that's why I see him as submissive and shy because I think he has even admitted that he doesn't like crowds, or talking in public, etc. Jensen has even admitted that Jared has helped him come out of his shell more because he has had a hard time interacting publicly with fans.
That being said obviously people like what they like and I don't begrudge that at all. But I my problem with them stems from the fact that they seem to have to go the extra mile in order to short-change Jared enough so that Jensen is the top, and I wind up thinking to myself what's the point of writing J2 if you are going to remove everything that makes the character the character?